Date: Wed,  9 Feb 94 18:37:01 PST
From: The Info-Mac Moderators <info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu>
Reply-To: Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V12 #22
To: info-mac-list


Info-Mac Digest             Wed,  9 Feb 94       Volume 12 : Issue 22

Today's Topics:

      [*] 2Way Talker 2.1
      [*] Academic DataManager 2.0
      [*] Aurora 3.0.1
      [*] bolo-map-snugg-nads.hqx
      [*] CrossPuzzler
      [*] CrudFont
      [*] File(I/O) & PICT files
      [*] frog-ion-eaters21.hqx
      [*] Fudd 1.0 (source code)
      [*] Fudd 1.0 (text utility)
      [*] FunkyFresh Upload
      [*] GLMStat 1.0b1
      [*] Graphplot II Upgrade/New Version package
      [*] Grunge Update Font
      [*] HyperMacro 1.1
      [*] Icon Puzzle
      [*] KAWAI-K4-104.hqx
      [*] Kermit-099-190
      [*] MDictUpdt.hqx
      [*] Movie Almanac 1.0
      [*] MusicBox v2.0.2 update
      [*] new uploads from RichD!
      [*] Pathways Guide
      [*] PowerPC info
      [*] PRAM save/restore
      [*] Quadra 840AV startup 16"
      [*] RAM Doubler 1.0.1 Updater
      [*] REPORT: Repair options for internal FDHD
      [*] snd/jerky-boys-laser-surgery.hqx
      [*] Std Map Application for Archive Please
      [*] STool-10ur.sit.hqx
      [*] Submission of "Ultra" Random-Number Library
      [*] Teacher's Grading Program II 1.00
      [*] TeleTarif v.1.0
      [*] Torgo Screen Saver Module
      [*] Totoro icons
      [*] tube-bar-grp1.sit.hqx
      [*] useKEYBDled
      [*] UUParser1.71 replacement
      [*] WAREZ 1.0 (source code)
      [*] WAREZ 1.0 (text utility)
      [*] Wordstar to RTF Translator update
      ADRead 1.0a
      Aesops Fables+Our Fables  submission
      Alias for BBS different settings
      Apple "Licenses" Bedrock;  Symantec drops it
      apple/mac history
      Apple IIgs Monitors (A)
      Audio conferencing?
      CD ROM Creation
      Chain-Stor-Eaze submission
      Changing TIFF files into PICT files, How? (A)
      Early days of the Mac (A)
      Fetch
      Flopticals (C)
      Gopher problem
      Home & School Mac collection
      Home Internet Connections
      Hypercard 2.1 (A)
      Info-Mac Digest V12 #20
      Info-Mac Digest V12 #21 (2 msgs)
      Internet email gateways
      Kudos for TechTool 1.0.3 (one.o.THREE)!
      MacSLIP on a network
      MacTCP networking stuff
      MacX and the Meta key---a puzzle (R)
      Mirror Sites
      MOD files for the Mac(?)
      Nisus mailing list [Q]
      nuntius replacement
      Old English font (Q)
      on-line dictionary
      PageMaker 5.0 and LaserMax
      Paging Sabastian Software........
      PortShare Pro 2.0 Demo timeout (Q)
      posting question concerning MAC (A)
      Programming Editor for the Mac
      Puny floppy Redux
      Q610 monitor outlet switched or no?
      Q: MacTCP+SLIP+Ethernet (A)
      RAM Doubler (2 msgs)
      RAM Doubler and First Class
      RAMdoubler and First Class Client 2.0.9?
      Required Reading for Info-Macers
      Screenshots
      SCSI
      Searching a Smalltalk list
      SE HD doesn't mount... [A]
      Sending mail to aol or compuserve (A)
      serial or AppleTalk device on Ethernet (A)
      SOS APPL kudos
      Streamline
      Undocumented System functionality and you (C)
      Using serial in PowerBook
      UUCP News readers
      Wanted: Eduardo Mendez / XCMD
      Weather gifs (A)
      Weather gif site... (A)
      Weather gif site...(R)
      Where is Lists.src? (Q)

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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 13:11:55 -0800
From: 2way@cerf.net (Leslie Burcham)
Subject: [*] 2Way Talker 2.1

2WAY TALKER NOW COMPATIBLE WITH AV MACS

San Diego-- 2 Way Computing Inc.'s voice communication software for
Macintosh computers, called 2Way Talker,  is now compatible with Apple's
newest line of computers, the Quadra 840 AV and Quadra 660 AV. 2Way Talker
2.1 enables two Macintosh users connected over a network such as AppleTalk
or EtherTalk, to have hands free, full-duplex, real-time, voice
communication using the built-in speakers and microphone. Talker runs in
the background and performs much like a speaker phone, allowing people to
work in other applications while having hands-free, voice communication
simultaneously. Demos can be found on most major electronic services. The
introductory price is $49.95 per copy and may purchased directly from 2 Way
Computing at any of the numbers listed. Requirements: Macintosh LocalTalk
(lightly loaded) or EtherTalk. Talker also supports third party microphones
such as MacRecorder. Minimum memory required 500K. Macintosh Plus and
Original Macintosh do not have sufficient performance to run this program.
The following machines do not allow full-duplex communication: LC, LC II,
II vx, Performa 400, Performa 600.

For more information contact:
Leslie Burcham
2way@cerf.net

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/net/two-way-talker-21.hqx; 91K]

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Date: Tue, 08 Feb 94 14:59:55 EST
From: Tom Marx <TMARX@american.edu>
Subject: [*] Academic DataManager 2.0

 Please post this program, Academic DataManager v2.0 demo, for FTP.

Tom Marx
KalMarx Software

[Archived as /info-mac/sci/data-manager-20-hc-demo.hqx; 679K]

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 18:54:52 PST
From: mpinkert@sdcc8.UCSD.EDU (Mike Pinkerton)
Subject: [*] Aurora 3.0.1

This is an upgrade to Aurora 3.0 (posted last week) which now
protects against crashes on Mac's w/out ColorQuickdraw. There is no
new functionality except for this improved error handling. Please
replace Aurora 3.0 with this new version.

If it does not extract correctly, let me know as soon as possible so
I can remail the binhex.

Thank you very much.

Mike Pinkerton
pinkerton@ucsd.edu

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/aurora-301.hqx; 31K]

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 15:22:13 -0800
From: condor1@netcom.com (Charles McMurrough)
Subject: [*] bolo-map-snugg-nads.hqx

"Snugg nads" is an inovative change in a well known bolo map.
(Changes made with permission from the original author.)

[Archived as /info-mac/game/bolo/shugg-nads.hqx; 3K]

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Date: Tue, 08 Feb 1994 16:56:43 +0900
From: steven@pollux.math.iastate.edu (Greg Stevenson)
Subject: [*] CrossPuzzler

Hey all you CrossWord Puzzle Maniacs!

If you searching for the best crossword program on the market, THIS IS IT!
CrossPuzzler is loaded with all the latest and greated features.  I've also
got some other great news!  The creator of CrossPuzzler has now come up with a
word search puzzle maker called WordPuzzler!  So check them both out!

CrossPuzzler is a new crossword puzzle generator that far surpasses
anything on the market.  It will automatically generate a puzzle from a
list of up to 100 words.  All you need to do is provide the words and
clues.  CrossPuzzler will print your puzzle in a number of
professional-looking layouts using any Macintosh font.  CrossPuzzler will
also export your puzzle to a publishing or drawing program where you can
add your own features.  See also WordPuzzler.

Greg Stevenson
Computer Science
Iowa State University
steven@pollux.math.iastate.edu

[Archived as /info-mac/game/cross-puzzler.hqx; 189K]

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Date: 8 Feb 1994 09:20:33 U
From: "Scott Yoshinaga" <syoshinaga@mail.summer.hawaii.edu>
Subject: [*] CrudFont

Crud font was made for a poster project that I had for a Halloween Flyer. I
thought it was good enough to release so here it is. The font looks like a
typewriter font that has been totally destroyed. It gives you the feeling that
it has been used too much and cracked up.

The Font was created with Fontographer, Freehand, and Adobe Streamline on a
Macintosh Powerbook 160 (yes, believe it or not).  Special thanks to all that
paid for SassyFont and Grunge and for a lot of you who have given me
encouragement and comments on my work. If you have any comments, good or bad I
want to hear it! Check out my other font, FunkyFresh.

[Archived as /info-mac/font/crud.hqx; 134K]

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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 15:06:20 -0600
From: JRobert.Thibault%FORESTERIE%ULAVAL@REDIRECTEUR.ULAVAL.CA
Subject: [*] File(I/O) & PICT files

Hi Lingo fans

This package contains some developer resources for Macromedia Director
on the Macintosh.

File(I/O) contains a not very well documented but very useful method.

Instead of importing all your images in casts, you can leave then as
is on the Finder thus permitting editing while you build your projects.

I quickly prepared an example for you to see how it works.

Hope you will enjoy because this is the first of a series.

Enjoy!
J.-Robert Thibault

[Archived as /info-mac/app/director-file-io.hqx; 1357K]

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Date: 5 Feb 94 07:07:00 PST
From: "CHRIS MYERRS" <MYERS@bogart.stanford.edu>
Subject: [*] frog-ion-eaters21.hqx

VERSION 2.0 AND HIGHER AVAILABLE AS OF Feb 94 - complete overhaul of previous
versions

One of the Hungry Frog educational same series, Hungry Frog Ion Eaters is a
full color (or B&W) real-time animated multimedia game with 3D-rendered
graphics. Ion Eaters is for students of introductory chemistry and teaches ion
formulas, names and charges

 Like the other games, the game uses feedback loops to focus instruction on
 areas of difficulty,  so that the user is not forever presented with known
 problems. All aspects of the game are fully adjustable by the user.

System 7.0.1* or higher,  any Macintosh, 32 bit compatible.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/hungry-frog-ion-eaters-21.hqx; 964K]

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Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 23:13:56 -0500 (EST)
From: f8dy@netaxs.com (Mark Pilgrim)
Subject: [*] Fudd 1.0 (source code)

Fudd is a small utility to convert text files to Elmer Fudd talk, like the
character of the same name in the U.S. cartoon "Bugs Bunny."  Supports drag
and drop of any number of text files of any length.  This archive contains
complete THINK C source code, project files, and resource files.  Application
also available; check ftp sites or e-mail f8dy@netaxs.com.  Finger
f8dy@netaxs.com for complete program list.  Copyright (C) 1994, Mark Pilgrim.
Please read enclosed file "GNU General Public License" for licensing details.

[Archived as /info-mac/dev/src/fudd-10-c.hqx; 119K]

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Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 01:56:40 -0500 (EST)
From: f8dy@netaxs.com (Mark Pilgrim)
Subject: [*] Fudd 1.0 (text utility)

Fudd is a small utility to convert text files to Elmer Fudd talk, like the
character of the same name in the U.S. cartoon "Bugs Bunny."  Supports drag
and drop of any number of text files of any length.  C source code also
available; check ftp sites or e-mail f8dy@netaxs.com.  Finger f8dy@netaxs.com
for complete program list.  Copyright (C) 1994, Mark Pilgrim.  Please read
enclosed file "GNU General Public License" for licensing details.

[Archived as /info-mac/text/fudd-10.hqx; 36K]

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Date: 8 Feb 1994 08:48:20 U
From: "Scott Yoshinaga" <syoshinaga@mail.summer.hawaii.edu>
Subject: [*] FunkyFresh Upload

FunkyFresh font is a really cool all capital letters font. I thought it would
be cool to do a font in a way some graffitti artist write. It also goes well
with all of the hip looking computer art that is coming out.

The Font was created with Fontographer, Freehand, and Adobe Streamline on a
Macintosh Powerbook 160 (yes, beleive it or not).  Special thanks to all that
paid for SassyFont and GrungeFont and for a lot of you who have given me
encouragement and comments on my work. If you have any comments, good or bad I
want to hear it!

[Archived as /info-mac/font/funky-fresh.hqx; 99K]

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Date: Wed, 09 Feb 1994 10:41:08 +1100
From: FRUITCAKE <CGACB@cc.newcastle.edu.au>
Subject: [*] GLMStat 1.0b1

This release of GLMStat fixes a couple of bugs which caused crashes (fixing
one problem resulted in a larger problem which wasn't found until after the
initial
release) and improves the graph selection dialog.

GLMStat is a statistical program for analysing generalised linear models.
It provides  a macintosh interface but otherwise operates in a similar
fashion to GLIM but with less features (most of which you probably won't
miss). Features of GLMStat are
  - spreadsheet style data entry
  - Normal, Poisson, Binomial and Gamma models with appropriate links and
    specification of convergence parameters
  - Scatter and Residual plots
- Output of deviance, parameter estimates, residuals and parameter correlations
  - Saving of data files complete with all model specifications.
  - Online Help (under the apple menu) unfortunately there is currently no
    other documentation.
  - includes example data files for most examples in two of the texts.

This is a beta version of the programme. The fully tested (it already has had a
signicant amount of testing) and slightly more  tidied up version should be
available within 1 month.
The programme is shareware. Further details in "read me" file.Unregistered
copies are fully functional but after June 1994 there is a short delay after
each FIT operation with a reminder that the programme is unregistered.

I would greatly appreciate any comments (good, bad or indifferent) on the
programme.

Ken Beath
cgacb@cc.newcastle.edu.au

[Archived as /info-mac/sci/glm-stat-10b1.hqx; 215K]

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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 11:06:23 +0000
From: u9119523@sys.uea.ac.uk (Graham "Coxy" Cox)
Subject: [*] Graphplot II Upgrade/New Version package

Hi! Please could you replace the old (version 1.2) of Graphplot on your
archive with the enclosed new version (1.3). Info header as follows:

GraphPlot II is an application for generating graphs of mathematical
functions. It was written to address the needs of students wishing to
incorporate such graphs into coursework documents, and offers a cheap and
easy to use solution for those studying science, engineering or
mathematics. It is also useful for exploring mathematical functions in
general. Version 1.3 adds the ability to plot multiple functions on a
single graph and will now definitely work on 68000-based Macs.

[Archived as /info-mac/sci/graph-plot-13.hqx; 197K]

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Date: 8 Feb 1994 08:55:27 U
From: "Scott Yoshinaga" <syoshinaga@mail.summer.hawaii.edu>
Subject: [*] Grunge Update Font

Please replace the Grunge Font with this updated version. This version fixes
some bugs in the font and is a little bit cleaner. Thankyou!
-scott yoshinaga
MicroMouse Designs
syoshinaga@mail.summer.hawaii.edu

[Archived as /info-mac/font/grunge.hqx; 368K]

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 13:41:31 EST
From: David Sumner <sumner@math.scarolina.edu>
Subject: [*] HyperMacro 1.1

HyperMacro is an  INIT  that makes it much easier to
enter scripts in HyperCard. It contains the following
features:

1. It responds automatically to many actions. For
   example, if you type:

		   on BigHandlerName

 then after you press Enter, HyperMacro supplies the

		  'end BigHandlerName'

   There is a similar response to 'function,''if-then,'
'exit,' 'pass,' 'repeat' and more.

2. You can scroll back in your script as far as you like,
   and then have any selected text instantly copied to
   the point where you are currently editing.

3. There are ten extra paste buffers  (Clipboards).

4. You can move around more easily.

5. There are numerous glossary macros that simplify
   entering text.

6. Holding down the Shift key while pressing Return or
    Enter will repeat the previous line. Or you may choose to
    repeat only a portion of the previous line.

7. HyperMacro can often anticipate your scripting actions
   using what are called 'Initial Macros.' For example, if you
    type 'g' and then press the space bar, HyperMacro will expand
    this to 'global.'

			And much more!

   HyperMacro 1.1 is FreeWare but NOT public domain.

Changes in Version 1.1:
1. Version 1.1 is not sensitive to the name the user assigns to HyperCard.
2. Version 1.1 still works even when the Watch Variable and
     Watch Message palettes are  open.
3. CBT or CHB will expand to "Choose Browse Tool"
4. HyperMacro 1.1  works if the scripting messages are French or German.
5. A few technical changes and minor bug fixes.
6. Portions of the manual were redone.

[Archived as /info-mac/card/hyper-macro-11.hqx; 26K]

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 23:05:19 -0600
From: gas52r0@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jay Boersma)
Subject: [*] Icon Puzzle

I c o n  P u z z l e

A forty-two piece time-waster for those moments at the Mac when you should
probably be doing something much more productive...

The image is an 1872 photographic illustration by O.G.Rejlander from "The
Expression of the Emotions in Man and Animals" by Charles Darwin. It has
been divided into 42 icon-sized pieces awaiting your re-assembly.

Jay Boersma
gas52r0@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu

[Archived as /info-mac/game/icon-puzzle.hqx; 73K]

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 16:59:21 -0600 (CST)
From: "Dale H. Marsh" <MARSH@rcf.mayo.edu>
Subject: [*] KAWAI-K4-104.hqx

KAWAI-K4-104 allows one to save patch setting files from a Kawai K4
keyboard as a Macintosh file via a MIDI connection.
This file updates the current KAWAI-K4 file with a better dialog
box that does not cut off the source code address. This program is a simple
patch
librarian and comes with a number of banks of Kawai K4 public domain patches.
The software is free to use and copy. For those interested in writing MIDI
software the complete source code is available for $20. The source code is a
good
example of a simple Object-Oriented MIDI program. It is written with Think C
4.0
and uses the Think Class Library.

Dale H. Marsh     2-8-94
marsh@rcf.mayo.edu
CompuServe: 71530,676

[Archived as /info-mac/snd/util/kawai-k4-librarian-104.hqx; 112K]

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Date: Mon, 07 Feb 94 15:25:21 GMT
From: Michael Everson <EVERSON%IRLEARN.UCD.IE@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: [*] Kermit-099-190

Apparently this fixes a bug which truncated the first two letters
of downloaded files. I got it from kermit.columbia.ecu in kermit/test

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/kermit-099-190.hqx; 528K]

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 05:32:40 -0600 (CST)
From: Roger Stryker <regor@tenet.edu>
Subject: [*] MDictUpdt.hqx

Downloaded from America Online - certainly of use to educators concerned
about the kind of words that come up for children in the Claris
spellchecker.

>From the ReadMe file:
(This is) a no-charge Main Dictionary update which is compatible with the
following Claris products:  ClarisWorks, Claris Resolve, FileMaker Pro,
MacDraw II, MacDraw Pro, MacProject Pro, MacWrite II and MacWrite Pro.
The dictionary contains important modifications to the original
dictionary, as outlined below:

% Expletives have been removed as alternative suggestions
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
% Words that have been run together without a space are now split
when run through the spell checker

% Fixes problems related to possessives and hyphenated words

Roger Stryker <regor@tenet.edu>...in far south Austin, TX

[Archived as /info-mac/app/claris-dictionary-updt.hqx; 190K]

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Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 19:00:30 +0600
From: gendai@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chris Peterson)
Subject: [*] Movie Almanac 1.0

Dear Moderators,
Included is a hypercard database of films.  Users may search, print, etc
through the selections of films included.  This may be placed anywhere
including hypercard, games, reference, utilities.  Included text file and
integrated help should further clarify this submission.  Thank you for your
time.

Chris

[Archived as /info-mac/info/nms/movie-almanac-10-hc.hqx; 249K]

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 15:24:43 PST
From: Alex Metcalf <alex@metcalf.demon.co.uk>
Subject: [*] MusicBox v2.0.2 update

	This is a quick update to MusicBox to fix a couple of bugs:

* HyperCard 2.0 users may have had trouble using the "Play MOD" example
	(That particular example script requires HyperCard 2.1 or later)
* Realised goofy mistake which meant that the "Install" button wouldn't
	work for some people: now fixed.
* Couple of minor changes to the documentation.

	The actual MusicBox external has not changed, just the stack.

	Enjoy!

	Alex Metcalf
	Best Before Yesterday

--
Alex Metcalf, Mac programmer in C, C++, HyperTalk, assembler

Internet, AOL, BIX:     alex@metcalf.demon.co.uk
AppleLink:              alex@metcalf.demon.co.uk@internet#
CompuServe:             INTERNET:alex@metcalf.demon.co.uk
Delphi:                 alex@metcalf.demon.co.uk@inet#
FirstClass:             alex@metcalf.demon.co.uk,Internet

[Archived as /info-mac/card/music-box-202.hqx; 162K]

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 14:21:08 -0600
From: richd@okway.okstate.edu
Subject: [*] new uploads from RichD!

hey!

Attached are (hopefully, if i'm doing this right) about 18 files containing
freeware desktop patterns, icons, etc. from me, for Macintosh, compressed in
Compact Pro format.

enjoy!
richd@okway.okstate.edu

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/grf/richs-enhancements.hqx; 2152K]

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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 14:49:58 -0600
From: Colin C. Law <claw@spacsun.rice.edu>
Subject: [*] Pathways Guide

This is a Guide for Pathways Into Darkness.  It combines all the walkthrough
info with a complete set of maps in one standalone document.  It prints very
nicely into a book which is quite helpful to use while you play.

Colin Law
claw@spacsun.rice.edu

[Archived as /info-mac/game/com/pathways-guide.hqx; 336K]

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 11:58:42 +0100
From: a.c.vanderham@et.tudelft.nl (Andre' C. van der Ham)
Subject: [*] PowerPC info

For all of you excited about the new PowerPC Macs, here is info about some
of the applications that will be available at the introduction of the
machine (14th of March 1994). The file is in hyper-text format. You can
view it using Mosaic. Choose open local from the file menu.

Have fun,

Andre' van der Ham.

[Archived as /info-mac/info/sft/powerpc-applications.hqx; 19K]

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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 94 09:35:36 -0600
From: oleg@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Kiselyov Oleg)
Subject: [*] PRAM save/restore

What:   save the PRAM and extended PRAM and restore it on start-up

Explanation:
PRAM boss is a better version of DiskParam. The PRAM boss is a bundle
of an application and an INIT resource. The application (when
double-clicked) just dumps the contents of the 20-byte regular PRAM
plus the contents of the entire Extended PRAM into a 'HEXA' resource.
The INIT resets the regular PRAM and (a part of) the extended PRAM to
the values saved into the 'HEXA' resource. The date/time is not
spoiled!  So, you can run the application on your computer and create
a HEXA resource with some 'standard' settings. Then you can change the
creator to INIT and drop the (now a 'System Extension') into the
Extensions folder. From that moment on, whenever you restart your Mac,
the PRAM and extended PRAM are reset to their "standard" values. You
can even delete the code resource with the Resource editor: that way
there is no way you can change the "standard" values. It's perfect for
computers in the Lab. The INIT that resets the PRAMs does NOT
patch the system, nor it takes any memory in the system heap,
etc. After it resets the PRAM, it quietly quits without leaving any
traces in the system. The distribution contains the compiled PRAM boss
in the guise of the System extension. To run it as an application,
change the file type to APPL.
PRAM guard is my early experiment, it works only with the regular
PRAM, but it's got a nice (I hope) user interface written in C++!

[Archived as /info-mac/cfg/pram-save-restore.hqx; 151K]

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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 94 18:49:14 GMT
From: M.B.B.Bointon@lut.ac.uk (mbb Bointon) (mbb Bointon)
Subject: [*] Quadra 840AV startup 16"

Due to poular demand, here is a 16" version of my ray traced
StartupScreen for 840AV owners...

Just to add interest, there's an easter egg in the picture, with
a prize of a render to order for the first to reply with the
correct answer...
Photoshop users will have a slight advantage here!

And this time I included a readme...

Marcus Bointon

[Archived as /info-mac/grf/quadra840av-16in-startup.hqx; 464K]

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 12:17:00 -0600
From: Scott Fought <Scott_Fought@connectix.com>
Subject: [*] RAM Doubler 1.0.1 Updater

[Archived as /info-mac/cfg/ram-doubler-101-updt.hqx; 80K]

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Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 15:30:20 -0600 (CST)
From: wrr3118@ariel.tamu.edu (Rick Russell)
Subject: [*] REPORT: Repair options for internal FDHD

A while back, I wrote:

> My Mac IIfx's floppy drive has just given up the ghost, completely.  I
> don't think it's dust, or contamination, or anything easy to fix, and
> it's beginning to look like replacement is the only real option.

and I asked for some input.

I haven't decided on a final solution yet, although I did find out
that a company called "Pre-Owned Electronics" (check your favorite Mac
magazine's small ad/classified section for details) offers a
refurbished, 90-day-warranted replacement FDHD for $169, and they'll
give you $40 for a trade-in of a damaged drive. That's a net cost of
$129, which is the best net cost I've seen yet.

The following (edited) messages contain information on
repair/replacement of damaged FDHD drives. Thanks to everyone who
replied. Particular thanks go to those who provided specific data on
repair options, and to david randall for a fantastic message on the
pros and cons of various repair options.

If anyone wishes to add to their replies, or submit news ones, I'll be
happy to update the report.

Rick Russell  ***  rick-russell@tamu.edu  **  IRCnick: Cobalt

[Archived as /info-mac/info/hdwr/repair-internal-fdhd.txt; 7K]

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 09:44:16 -0600
From: (Dominik Hoffmann) <hoffmann@vms2.macc.wisc.edu>
Subject: [*] snd/jerky-boys-laser-surgery.hqx

This is a sample of The Jerky Boys CD. The Jerky Boys make abusive prank
phone calls. One of the milder and shorter ones is this one involving an
inquiry about laser surgery.

The CD has appeared under the Select Records label. The fan club address is

The Jerky Boys
260 1st Av. So. #110
St. Petersburg, FL 33701

The sound is sampled at 22 kHz and mono 8-bit.

Dominik Hoffmann

[Archived as /info-mac/snd/jerky-boys-laser-surgery.hqx; 412K]

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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 13:37:28 -0700
From: jdm@boulder.colorado.edu (James D. Meiss)
Subject: [*] Std Map Application for Archive Please

			       Std Map 3.0
			      by J.D. Meiss
			jdm@boulder.colorado.edu

Std Map is a program that demonstrates Chaotic dynamics for several area
preserving mappings. Area preserving mappings are examples of conservative
dynamical systems. They model such things as a forced pendulum, the motion
of a charged particle in several waves, the interaction of a comet with
Jupiter etc.

Std Map will also compute periodic orbits, invariant circles, cantori, and
stable and unstable manifolds. A short introduction in MS Word format is
included.

It runs on any Mac with an FPU and System 6 or later. It will run in full
color if you have a color mac. It requires 512K memory on a std 13" screen.

Comments are welcome.

Copyright by J.D.Meiss 1994
Std Map 3.0 is free. It may be distributed freely, and may not be sold or
included in any commercial package.

[Archived as /info-mac/sci/std-map-30.hqx; 82K]

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 15:24:59 -0800
From: johnc@flora.ruakura.cri.nz (John Curtis)
Subject: [*] STool-10ur.sit.hqx

The Serial Tool (S-Tool) is a keyboard wedge that allows data from
the serial ports to enter directly into any open application as if
it were typed.

Data is processed by parsers that transform the raw data into any
form before sending it to the application.  Arrow keys can be
selected to automatically relocate the cursor after data is entered.

Bar Code Support

Built into S-Tool are drivers for reading data from multiple field
strings, such as those used in bar codes.  Up to five fields of any
size can be parsed as text or numeric fields and be inserted or
ignored as necessary.

Extensibility

Programmers can add their own specialised parsers by linking in code
resources.  S-Tool automatically recognises the new parser and adds
it to its menu.

Summary of S-Tool Features

* Reads data from serial ports directly into any application using
    key strokes
* Each port configured independently with its own data rate etc,
    and its own device parser
* Runs in the background (requires 300K memory)
* Easy to use front panel for configuring the serial ports
* Built in parser for multiple-field strings e.g. for reading bar codes
* Appends arrow key/Tab/Return for cursor control (useful to use
    with spreadsheets)
* Built in driver and parser for Sartorius balance
* Custom devices and parsers can be added via code resources
* Settings can be saved and recalled
* System 7 only

This unregistered version lacks code resource functionality and can
only use the printer port.

Full version is shareware NZ$50 (about US$25)

Contact:  John Curtis - curtisj@ruakura.cri.nz

[Archived as /info-mac/cfg/s-tool-10ur.hqx; 143K]

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 12:18:30 -0600
From: M_P_McLaughlin%CAASD1@MWMGATE1.mitre.org
Subject: [*] Submission of "Ultra" Random-Number Library

This is an implementation of the "Ultra" pseudo-random number generator.
Included are source code written in C/Assembly, a header file and a demo.
The code REQUIRES a Macintosh (or other computer with a *Motorola* chip
set, version 68020/68881 or higher).

[Archived as /info-mac/dev/src/ultra-c.hqx; 14K]

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 11:57:44 PST
From: jafl@Alice.Wonderland.Caltech.EDU (John Lindal)
Subject: [*] Teacher's Grading Program II 1.00

Teacher's Grading          Manage your student's grades quickly and easily.
Program II                 Everything is organized into 3 simple worksheets.
			   Point, click, and type!
			   Unlimited number of students & assignments per
			   class.
			   Choose from 4 methods of computing final grades!
			   8 different printouts including Home Notices!


This replaces the old TGP 1.50.

John Lindal
jafl@alice.wonderland.caltech.edu

[Archived as /info-mac/app/teachers-grading-program-ii.hqx; 269K]

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 10:48:40 +0100
From: molinari@isis.u-strasbg.fr (Serge MOLINARI)
Subject: [*] TeleTarif v.1.0

TeleTarif v.1.0 by Serge MOLINARI (molinari@isis.u-strasbg.fr)

TeleTarif is a tiny tool intended for *french people* who want to know, in real
time, the cost of their phone calls.

TeleTarif est destine aux utilisateurs francais qui,lorsqu'ils telephonent,
aimeraient savoir, en temps reel, ce que leur coute la communication
telephonique.

TeleTarif tient compte :
- des zones d'appel (locale, nationale,...)
- des differents tarifs (rouge, blanc, bleu, ...) en fonction des heures
d'appel

TeleTarif ne fonctionne que sous Systeme 7.

[Archived as /info-mac/app/tele-tarif-10-fr.hqx; 116K]

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 18:53:50 -0800
From: lynsared@teleport.com (lynsa/mrhenry)
Subject: [*] Torgo Screen Saver Module

Attached please find "Torgo," an After Dark module featuring a character
from Mystery Science Theater 3000. My friend Brandon the Mad Programmer put
it together and it's quite worth the download for fans of the show.

Lynn Siprelle
aka Lynsa

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/ad/torgo-ad.hqx; 351K]

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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 10:18:42 -0600
From: kh@hk.super.net
Subject: [*] Totoro icons

Here is a collection of some Totoro Icons for Mac that I created myself
to meet the demand of my MUG. But I thought it might be a good idea to
let the world share them. So please include this into your library. Thank
you

rgds
Kenneth Ho
kh@hk.super.net

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/grf/totoro-icons.hqx; 9K]

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Date: Sat, 5 Feb 94 17:33:56 PST
From: (A Prastowo) <prastowo@vms2.macc.wisc.edu>
Subject: [*] tube-bar-grp1.sit.hqx

After hearing the B'ambulance sample, I was surprised to find that no has
posted the infamous Red tape. This is a group of excerpts from the Red
tape. If you don't already know, the Red tape is a tape of prank calls
to the Tube Bar and its owner Red. A complete sample of the tape would
be too big to post, so here is a selection of the best bits. There are 8
samples in all and they are numbered for continuity.

** Warning: Offensive language used. If this bothers you, don't listen! **

The samples are 22khz with 6:1 compression to save space.

  1) ...hello is Mike Hunt there?...
  2) ...Phil there?...
  3) ...Phil DiGrave there?... (second time around)
  4) ...where's my father?...

[Archived as /info-mac/snd/tube-bar-grp1.hqx; 723K]

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Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 19:12:52 EST
From: marcouet@edupac.qc.ca (M ARCOUET)
Subject: [*] useKEYBDled

Here is the latest version of useKEYBDled, compacted with CompactPro, and
binhexed.
This CDEV is an utility for all owner of extended keyboard. French and English
documentation are included. useKEYBDled is free.
Thank you.

Alain Birtz via marcouet login

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/use-keybd-led.hqx; 67K]

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 20:22:52 -0800
From: jsl@netcom.com (John S. Lee)
Subject: [*] UUParser1.71 replacement

NOTE:  This version replaces ALL previous versions of UUParser.
It contains updated docs (which previous versions did not have), and
corrects a bug in the program which gave erroneous file errors.  Also fixes
problems with the memory saving option.

Some items of interest are:

- Parsing in the background.
- Drag & Drop Join funtion (choose the files, drag them to the UUParser
application while holding down the COMMAND key).
- Parse large files without increasing the memory partition.
- Can stop any operation by COMMAND-"." (period).
- File extensions are no longer case sensitive (so if the file has a
".Jpg", or ".JPG" extension, UUParser will set the file type and creator
according to what you've specified).
- Better parsing algorithm gets rid of most uneeded header/footer/cut lines.
- Change filenames to UPPERCASE on the fly.

Please remember:  IF you are using anything less than version 1.5, please
get rid of your preferences file.  Version 1.5 users have upward
compatibility.

The shareware fee is STILL $10.  $15 for disk updates.

[Archived as /info-mac/cmp/uu-parser-171.hqx; 102K]

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Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 23:12:09 -0500 (EST)
From: f8dy@netaxs.com (Mark Pilgrim)
Subject: [*] WAREZ 1.0 (source code)

WAREZ is a small utility to convert text files to WAREZ talk.  Supports drag
and drop of any number of text files of any length.  This archive contains
complete THINK C source code, project files, and resource files.  Application
also available; check ftp sites or e-mail f8dy@netaxs.com.  Finger
f8dy@netaxs.com for complete program list.  Copyright (C) 1994, Mark Pilgrim.
Please read enclosed file "GNU General Public License" for licensing details.

[Archived as /info-mac/dev/src/warez-10-c.hqx; 144K]

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Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 23:11:33 -0500 (EST)
From: f8dy@netaxs.com (Mark Pilgrim)
Subject: [*] WAREZ 1.0 (text utility)

WAREZ is a small utility to convert text files to WAREZ talk.  Supports drag
and drop of any number of text files of any length.  C source code also
available; check ftp sites or e-mail f8dy@netaxs.com.  Finger f8dy@netaxs.com
for complete program list.  Copyright (C) 1994, Mark Pilgrim.  Please read
enclosed file "GNU General Public License" for licensing details.

[Archived as /info-mac/text/warez-10.hqx; 36K]

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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1993 21:33:26 -0500
From: markf@POST.queensu.ca
Subject: [*] Wordstar to RTF Translator update

This shareware translator will converts WordStar file to MicroSoft
Revisable Text Format (RTF).   It will convert all wordstar font styles to
selected macintosh types, and strip the extra spaces Wordstar uses for
paragraph indentation.

The following word processors can read the RTF format: Microsoft Word
V3.0-V5.1 & Microsoft Works, MacWrite II, Claris Works and WriteNow.

This program will not convert WordStar "Dot" commands they are
automatically listed in the Apple File Exchange log file.  Print the log
file, and then use a word processor's search function to locate the
imbedded "Dot" commands in the translated file.  The AFE about box for this
translator contains a description of these dot commands.

History...
V1.0    First Released.
V1.0.1  Fix bug with closing off wrong resource file.
V1.0.2  Fix bug where it would sometime enter into an infinite loop
	  (reported by: almstrum@cs.utexas.edu <Vicki L. Almstrum> thank
you,
	   your sample file helped!).
	  Change the destination file name to end in: ".RTF", if 3rd or 4th
	  from last character is period.

Mark Fleming, Queen's University at Kingston Ont. K7L 3N6
E-mail: markf@post.queensu.ca           AppleLink: CDA0448
Phone: (613) 545-2039           Fax: (613) 545-6798

[Archived as /info-mac/cmp/afe-wordstar-to-rtf-102.hqx; 33K]

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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 01:41:32 -0600
From: werner@cs.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig)
Subject: ADRead 1.0a

At  3:22 PM 2/8/94 +0000, Jim Tso wrote:
> ADRead 1.0a
>Hi,
>
>It's recently come to our attention that this program, ADRead 1.0a, will
>reveal an user's After Dark password.  Many of our users depend on this
>feature and would be adversely affected by this program.
>
>We are in the process of changing our password feature so that it will not be
>so easily broken but in the meantime, we would appreciate it if you would
>remove this program from your archives. Please distribute this message to any
>other sysops that you can.
>
>Thanks a lot,
>
>Berkeley Systems

	Hi Jim,

	I don't think I have this item in my archives on RASCAL,
	but if you know different and can point me to the file
	location, I would appreciate you letting me know.

	I will pass this note on to some other site-admins also.

				Cheers,         ---Werner


[Nor do we have it in our archives -Gordon]

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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 13:46:38 -0500
From: Venanzio@hookup.net (Venanzio Jelenic)
Subject: Aesops Fables+Our Fables  submission

*Aesops Fables+Our Fables*  a Group-A-Ware  product by V. Jelenic


Requires a Macintosh computer, Hypercard 2.x or Player, Printer (optional)
and approximately 15 kids.  This is a Group-A-Ware (tm) product.

A simple presentation of over 300 of Aesop*s Fables, as extracted from the
Gutenburg Project's E-text version (by G.F.Townsend).    Laid out in a
database form in Hypercard. (requires Hypercard 2.x or Player).
Includes *Life of Aesop* and *Preface to the Fables*.
Additional multi-user database where the users can write their own fables.
 Ideal for a classroom, library, or any location which sees a large number
of users-browsers.  It can easily be integrated into any unit you are doing
on fables, short-story writing, or simple paragraph formation practice, and
is non-intrusive into the daily schedule.

Some instructions for educational use included in docs.  Very good for
using over extended periods of time with multiple writers, as almost 600
fables may be saved to single 800 K floppy disk.

Educators, Teachers; this one is worth trying.  A low-cost solution to
using computers in a classroom creatively.  One of the few models which
allows for collaborative long-term work with computers in the classroom,
yet requires little hardware or training.

Demo version 1.0.   Allows for 3 users, and 10 Fables.  The complete
version allows for unlimited number of users, and unlimited Fables. The
Aesop*s Fables stack may be read by as many users as you wish, the limits
only apply to the Our Fables stack (where you can write your own).

Please direct email  inquiries to:

Venanzio@hookup.net
Venanzio.Jelenic@Canrem.com
Venanzio.Jelenic@f15.n229.z1.fidonet.org

or/
Venanzio Jelenic
Simulnet/Fables Plus
20 Chalmers St. North
Cambridge, Ontario,CANADA
N1R 5B7
(519)623-4050

AT Group-A-Ware, "We treat kids like MEMBERS, not NUMBERS."
Macintosh,  Hypercard are trademarks of Apple Computer Corp.
*Group-A-Ware*, *Simulnet*, and *Aesop's Fables+Our Fables* are trademarks
of V. Jelenic

Venanzio.Jelenic@Canrem.com     Venanzio.Jelenic@f15.n229.z1.fidonet.org
Venanzio@hookup.net

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Date: 07 Feb 94 08:49:00 -0500
From: Charles.McDermott@f204.n2603.z1.fidonet.org (Charles McDermott)
Subject: Alias for BBS different settings

Tim Neese asked, "...Is there some way (modifier key?) to keep
such an alias from remembering guest connections while still
retaining changes made when connecting as a registered user?"
 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

If I understand the question, perhaps this will help:
When I want to dial up America OnLine or one of the local usergroup
BBSs, and I also want to provide easy access to do so by my wife,
or my children, or my secretary -- each dialing up under their own
name (perhaps even with their own password, depending on the BBS)--
I make multiple copies of the BBS or AOL dialup file, then change
the name in the setting to "Guest" or "Mary Doe" etc.  I then have
multiple versions of the dialup file, one of which I label "Guest,"
while another dialup file label has my name on it.  Then a
guest or my wife, etc. can dialup under their own name with their
own settings set specifically to their needs.  The only use of an
alias in this situation would be to throw one onto the desktop and
or into the apple menu.  I keep a folder on the desktop (accessed by
the keyboard equivalent Command-Option-B) that contains the icons
for our most used BBS dialup files; six of them in a folder use 50k.
Hope this was useful or provoked you to creative problem-solving
to devise an even better approach.  If you come up with better,
please post details of your approach.               -Charlie

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 08 Feb 1994 15:08:08 -0600
From: mccarthy@lpi.com (Jamie McCarthy)
Subject: Apple "Licenses" Bedrock;  Symantec drops it

The newsletter/magazine "Apple Directions" appears in preliminary form on
AppleLink in the month before its release.  The March issue's text was
made available on February 3rd, in "Developer Support:Developer
Services: Periodicals:Apple Directions:Apple Directions March 1994". I'm
specifically interested in the article "News-Apple Licenses Bedrock."

The notice on that text reads "Reuse or reprinting without permission of
the editor is forbidden," and my request for permission hasn't been
answered yet, so I'm not going to quote it here.  I am, however, going
to summarize it.  Keep in mind that the following is just the opinion of
one gradually-becoming-cynical developer;  if you want the sugarcoated
version, I encourage you to log onto AppleLink yourself and read Apple's
own story.

If this is common knowledge by now, I apologize;  please don't flame me.
I've scanned all three of these newsgroups and haven't found any long
threads of impassioned ranting, so I presume this is new information.


The story says that, on January 24th, Apple and Symantec announced that
Symantec's dropping the ball that we've come to know as "Bedrock." Their
polite language is that Apple "has licensed the development rights."
Symantec's going to continue to use Bedrock for their development
efforts, but they're not going to pay anyone to work on it.

My guess is that they had a falling-out over OpenDoc, which Apple is
pretty hyped-up about.  The article says that Apple's going to provide
us with a framework that's OpenDoc-savvy.  That's all well and good, but
they had better make it possible to write _non-OpenDoc_ apps with
Bedrock as well, or it's dead in the water, of course.  No one wants
mounds of OpenDoc code linked into an app that doesn't need it.  Anyway,
the article says that Apple decided to "redirect" the project because of
OpenDoc (and, supposedly, other things as well).  Symantec didn't want
the hassle and bowed out.

The article also mentions that Symantec will "develop tools for
Microsoft's OLE 2.0."  Okay, all together now:  AAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHH!

It goes on to kindly reassure us that "this does not detract from the
future of OpenDoc."  How about the future of Bedrock, and programming
the Macintosh in general?!  How about this cross-platform environment
that Apple's been promising for well over a year now?!  Yes, hell yes, I
think OpenDoc's a great idea, it's wonderful, all computers should work
like that--but here in _1994_ we Apple developers are standing on a
rapidly-eroding island!  We have next to nothing.  We have MacApp and
the TCL, both of which will be abandoned in the near future. We have
Bedrock, whose status has been _totally_unknown_ for the last year, and
probably will be for the next year as well.  All we know is a little
glimpse at the header files and rough outlines of how it's laid out--and
rumors that it's going to be priced in the four digits.


Meanwhile, as Apple churns out thousands of reams of print telling
developers to use ANSI C or C++, MPW's C and C++ compilers slowly melt
into oblivion.  The _single_ person working on the GNU C++ translation
takes a job at another company, so _that_ fades away. Symantec C++ is
still a piece of crap, after six months and _one_ revision.  And as much
as I like Mr. Kahl's object extensions to C, they aren't standardized,
and I get every indication from Apple that they will be incompatible
with future development environments.

It's sounding like MetroWorks' C++ compiler may be the _only_ choice. I
haven't seen it yet, and believe me I don't want to switch tens of
thousands of lines of TCL code over into an unknown framework, but it's
looking like I HAVE NO ALTERNATIVE.  (I can't compile the TCL under any
compiler besides Symantec's, even though I've paid for it.)

Bedrock damn well better compile on MetroWorks' compiler (or any stable
C++ compiler), it damn well better cost under $2000, and it damn well
better support OpenDoc as an _option_.  So long as any of those three
conditions is not fulfilled, I'm sticking with Kahl's extensions to C,
and native-mode apps will be only a fantasy to me.

And if there are any developers who are thinking similarly, the PowerPC
will die a miserable, painful death.  People have been promised a giant
leap in price/performance.  Few native-mode apps means a small step, and
a small step will kill PowerPC faster than you can say "Osbourne."
--
 Jamie R. McCarthy                         Director of Programming
 mccarthy@lpi.com (preferred)              Lawrence Productions Inc.
 j.mccarthy@applelink.apple.com            I speak only for myself.

------------------------------

Date: 8 Feb 1994 19:27:09 -0500
From: smhennin@news.delphi.com (SMHENNING@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: apple/mac history

Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu writes:

>Im looking for info on the early days of apple macintosh.
>Im researching the history of apple macintosh for the slave driver(comp
inst).
>any interesting info please
>Tomas Grim, snowed in in Mankato.


were  originally developed at XEROX's Palo Alto Research Center and in
1981  led
to the landmark XEROX Star(r), the first commercial computer with a  visual
interface.  Apple's Lisa(TM), launched in 1983, brought the price  of such
machines below $10,000 -- much less than the Star, but still too  high for
most
individuals and many businesses."  The Macintosh (128k)  came out in 1984
at a
price considerably below the $10,000 level, closer  to $2,000.  It was an
immefiate hitPC had surpassed the Apple as the leading  personal- computer
maker. IBM
profited by a flood of software and by  competition from many other
manufacturers of PC clones. In 1984, the  first Macintosh was not really
competitive in terms of power since it  just had MacPaint, MacWrite, MS Word,
ThinkTank, Multiplan, MS Shart, MS  File, MacTerminal, BASIC, Pascal and
Logo.
These were basic programs  but very easy to use.  This brought the power
of the
PC to everyone.  Here is a feature by feature comparison of the PC and Mac.


Feature            IBM PC          Macintosh (128k)
Chip Intel    8088 8/16 bit   Motorola 68000 16/32 bit
Speed           t.77 MHz              7.78 MHz
RAM        256K (64K addressed)    128K plus 64K
ROM Expansion  1 or 2 slots            None
Floppy Disk    360K 5.25 inch      400K 3.5 inch
Screen     Low resolution color  Medium resolution b/w
Learning time  15 to 30 hours       2 to 4 hours

The "fat Mac" (512k Mac) gave hope for the Mac becoming a powerhouse and
proved
that Apple might pursue a policy of upward compatibili|y and  upgrades.  The
MacPlus further demonstrated the policy of upward  compatibility and of
upgrades.  It also brought out the SCSI port which  provided a fast port to
external hard drives.  Mac's strengths were in  desk top publishing, where it
stole the market, and in networking. Also  the closed architecture made sure
that programs would work on all Macs  and not just ones with certain exyansion
boards.
1976 Apple I
1977 Apple II
1978 Apple II Plus
1980 Apple III
1983 LISA; and, Apple IIe
1984 Apple IIc
1986 Apple IIgs

Cheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 9 Feb 94 15:56:40 -0500
From: clu@po.cwru.edu (Christopher L. Ursich)
Subject: Apple IIgs Monitors (A)

>cable.  Can anyone tell me if the IIgs monitor is unique to the CPU, or
>could any Apple II monitor do the job.  Also, can anyone tell me anything
>about monitor cable requirements.  If anyone has any pertinent information,
>please send it, it will really help the kids and their supervisors.

A IIgs can use either an RGB monitor (I think it is called the
"AppleColor RGB Display".  Aye, how one's Apple II knowlege
fades when one gets a Mac!) or any monitor which will plug
into the monochrome-out port on the back of the IIgs.  The
monochrome-out port's cable is just standard stereo cabling
as I recall.  The RGB monitor has a big multi-pin connector
like a Mac monitor does.  If you get the RGB monitor (which
by the way does have some radiation concerns if you work
at nose-length from your computer), the power cable is built
in and is not removable.  The signal cable has two multi-pin
connectors, as I have described.

I hope that helps.

Chris Ursich
clu@po.cwru.edu

"Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty."  --Thomas Jefferson

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 20:39:13 -0600
From: soell@rice.edu (Oliver Soell)
Subject: Audio conferencing?

Does anyone know if there is an application which allows you to converse
(using the built in microphone) to someone else on the Internet, given that
both computers have ip addresses, etc.? I have seen a few packages like
this for various unix machines, but none for the mac.  Anyone?

Thanks
Oliver Soell
Rice University
soell@rice.edu

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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 14:44:14 -0500
From: Cory Myers <cory@rocket.sanders.lockheed.com>
Subject: CD ROM Creation

Does anyone have information about how to create CD ROMs?  Information
either on equipment or services would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

-----
    Dr. Cory Myers               Lockheed Sanders, Inc.
    cory@rocket.sanders.com      Room PTP2-C001
    phone (603) 885-6845         P.O. Box 868
    fax   (603) 885-8288         Nashua, NH 03061-0868

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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 13:46:32 -0500
From: Venanzio@hookup.net (Venanzio Jelenic)
Subject: Chain-Stor-Eaze submission

"Chain-Stor-Eaze"   a Group-A-Ware (tm) product by V. Jelenic

Requires a Macintosh computer, Hypercard 2.x or Player, Printer(optional)
and approximately 15 kids. This is a Group-A-Ware (tm) product.

Welcome to an easy to use chain-story network, only kids welcome.
Each participant will be responsible for adding one paragraph and one main
idea sentence to the story. The story will go to each participant with a
new main idea sentence to be developed by that participant. When the
paragraph is complete, that participant will be able to shape the next
paragraph of the story by creating the new main idea for that paragraph and
sending to the next participant on the list. (In the above, you can
substitute "Individual", "group" or "Classroom" or "school" in place of
"participant". The procedure is the same, just the recipient changes).

Teachers,Educators; this one is worth trying. A low-cost solution to using
computers in a classroom creatively. One of the few models which allows for
collaborative long-term work with computers in the classroom, yet requires
little hardware or training.

Demo version 1.0. Allows for 3 users, and 5 chainstory links. The complete
version allows for unlimited number of users, and unlimited chainstory
links.   Demo version is now available.
(be sure to read the doc file for instructions for log-in procedure.)

Please direct email  inquiries to:

Venanzio@hookup.net
Venanzio.Jelenic@Canrem.com
Venanzio.Jelenic@f15.n229.z1.fidonet.org

or/
Venanzio Jelenic
Simulnet/Chain-Stor-Eaze
20 Chalmers St. North
Cambridge, Ontario,CANADA
N1R 5B7
(519)623-4050


AT Group-A-Ware, "WE treat kids like MEMBERS, not NUMBERS."
"Macintosh",  "Hypercard"  are trademarks of Apple Computer Corp.
"Group-A-Ware", "Simulnet", and "Chain-Stor-Eaze" are trademarks of V. Jelenic

Venanzio.Jelenic@Canrem.com     Venanzio.Jelenic@f15.n229.z1.fidonet.org
Venanzio@hookup.net

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 21:39:06 -0800
From: kee@kagi.com (Kee Nethery +1 510 843 6140)
Subject: Changing TIFF files into PICT files, How? (A)

Just about any paint program will open TIFF and PICT and save TIFF and
PICT. Get your favorite paint program and open the files and save them as
PICT. I use Color It! from MicroFrontier [mfrontier@aol.com] it cost less
than US$9.

Kee Nethery

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 9 Feb 94 15:46:29 -0500
From: clu@po.cwru.edu (Christopher L. Ursich)
Subject: Early days of the Mac (A)

An interesting article about the designing of the
first Mac appears in the IEEE Spectrum journal,
the December 1984 issue.  "Design Case History:
The Apple Macintosh" by Fred Guterl.

Chris
clu@po.cwru.edu

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 11:41:18 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Fetch

In Regards to your letter <199402080010.AA23746@nwnexus.wa.com>:
> I'm new to Internet and a virgin Fetch user. Are there any diagrams of how
> Fetch finds its way through the net? The different fields make no sense to
> me. What is the Host field in relation to the Directory field? Any good
> books you can suggest? Thanks :-) wpb

I explain the topic a bit in my book, and Fetch has good online help.
Basically, the Host field is the name of the machine that you wish
to connect to, such as ftp.tidbits.com

Then the username is your username (if you have an account on that
machine already) or more commonly, anonymous

The password field always takes your email address for anonymous logins,
and your password if you have an account on the remote machine.

You can set defaults for the username and password fields in Fetch's
preferences so that if you leave those fields blank, Fetch will fill
them in for you with anonymous and your email address.

Finally, the Directory field holds the path to the directory you want
to enter. Whenever you hear directory, think folder. It's the same
concept. So you could put   /pub/tidbits   in there to move to the
tidbits folder inside the pub folder on ftp.tidbits.com

cheers ... -Adam

--
Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- ace@tidbits.com -- info@tidbits.com
Author of The Internet Starter Kit for Macintosh -- tisk@tidbits.com

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 18:25:29 -0600
From: forbes@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu (Graeme Forbes)
Subject: Flopticals (C)

Blake Sobiloff <sobiloff@lap.umd.edu> writes:

"Apple *desperately* needs to set a new standard for removable media;
CD-ROM would be fine by me (especially if Apple would release a System
Reference disc every quarter or so), but even that is only a partial
solution. What about writable media? IMHO, the Quadras should have
incorporated the 2.88 meg mechanism, and the PowerPCs should use 20 meg
flopticals."

Here here to the idea of 20meg flopticals, most of which can read 1.4 meg
floppies as well. In fact, if anyone knew of a floptical which could
replace my internal floppies in a Quadra 700 and an 800, I'd seriously
consider buying. Suggestions? (The drives I've seen advertised are all
externals.)

Graeme Forbes

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 19:30:34 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Gopher problem

In Regards to your letter <199402082236.AA02774@nwnexus.wa.com>:
> I would greatly appreciate someone responding to a "rookie's" question...
>
> i have recently connected to the 'net through northwest nexus using SLIP
> and MACTCP with software appl.'s FETCH and TURBOGOHER on a MAC POWERBOOK
> 165c with internal modem (32bis).
>
> Seems everytime i use 'GOPHER, i can explore for about five minutes before
> it gives me the error message "unable to resolve host".  Of course, I
> CHECKED ALL CONFIG's.  I tried reinstalling MACTCP.. no go.  I then
> installed everything from scratch... same thing, nothing.
>
> Again, if anyone has ANY ideas,  would greatly appreciate hearing them.

Interesting. It sounds like you're losing domain name service at that
point. I'd recommend downloading MacTCP Watcher and seeing if you
have a Mac name to begin with in it, and then see if you have one
after the error in TurboGopher. Also, check the draft of Dominating
MacTCP at ftp.tidbits.com in:

/pub/tidbits/

MacTCP Watcher is in:

/pub/tidbits/tisk/mactcp/utilities

cheers ... -Adam

--
Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- ace@tidbits.com -- info@tidbits.com
Author of The Internet Starter Kit for Macintosh -- tisk@tidbits.com

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 09 Feb 1994 13:24:53 CST
From: "Michael Cook, 124-211, x2792" <mlc@iberia.cca.cr.rockwell.com>
Subject: Home & School Mac collection

I would appreciate more information about the Home & Mac collection of
programs and tools.  I have a Performa 475 at home, and have 2 grade
school age children who use the Mac.

I noticed several postings to info-mac about various Home & Mac
collection items, and was curious as to what this is all about.

Thanks,
Michael Cook
Internet: MLC@IBERIA.CCA.CR.ROCKWELL.COM
These are not the opinions of my employer.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 11:37:51 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Home Internet Connections

In Regards to your letter <199402080010.AA23746@nwnexus.wa.com>:
> I'm interested in finding out what exactly I would need to set up for
> InterNet access from my home (probably through a SLIP connection; I need
> to check with my university on that).  I would love to be able to take
> advantage of shareware wonders like Fetch, Eudora, Anarchive, TurboGopher,
> and NewsWatcher; can I do this from a v.32bis SLIP connection?

Basically, you need MacTCP, a SLIP implementation (InterSLIP is free),
and a SLIP account. It all works fine over a v.32bis modem although
it can take a bit of setup, depending on your provider and how careful
you are. :-)

> I'd like to avoid buying any expensive books if I can; however, if I need
> MacTCP (I probably do, don't I?), I'll get Adam Engst's book.  How can I
> order it (I can't find it around here).

Yup, you need MacTCP - there's no way around it. Sorry... If you need
information on ordering my book directly from Hayden, send email to

   tisk@tidbits.com

and my Mac will return the file to you automatically. The book should
be available in good bookstores, although I keep hearing stories about
how the stores continually sells out. Warms my heart, although I wish
people could find it more easily. :-)

cheers ... -Adam

--
Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- ace@tidbits.com -- info@tidbits.com
Author of The Internet Starter Kit for Macintosh -- tisk@tidbits.com

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 21:39:13 -0800
From: kee@kagi.com (Kee Nethery +1 510 843 6140)
Subject: Hypercard 2.1 (A)

>I searched veronica and archie and I can't seem to find Hypercard 2.1.
>Has it gone under a different name?

HyperCard is not public domain or shareware or anything else that implies
that you would find it on a server on the net. It is a commercial product
that happens to periodically get bundled with every Mac sold. You'll need
to order an upgrade to get the latest version. Talk to your Apple dealer or
favorite mail order place.

Kee Nethery

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 12:00:25 +1100
From: Gerard Hammond <ghammond@metz.une.edu.au>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V12 #20

info-mac-request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Info-Mac Moderators):
>
> First off, you want to get version 1.0.1 of InterSLIP since it fixed
> some bugs that plagued 1.0fc3.
>
> Second, Fetch will crash if you are not already connected to your
> provider since it expects a connection to exist. In theory InterSLIP
> can see this request for MacTCP services and connect automatically,
> but in practice this works badly. Always connect via InterSLIP manually,
> then run Fetch.
>

Adam,
	Does the place were you ring need any special software or
doI just set interSlip to log into my account on the mainframe.
ie does the "annex" need to be configured for a SLIP connection?

Thanks

best regards,

Gerard Hammond
PostGrad Lab, Dept of Chemistry      internet:    ghammond@metz.une.edu.au
University of New England           Telephone:    +61 67 73 2382
Armidale NSW 2351 Australia               Fax:    +61 67 71 1563

Shameless shareware plug: Linear Regression Pro v2.0, at all good Mac ftp
sites.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 09 Feb 94 15:03:40 ECT
From: "John W. Steele" <JSTEELE%BINGVMB.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V12 #21

O Fellow Netlings,
		  I am a volunteer fireman in upstate NY.  While dozing through
 training last week, I flashed on a concept:  Is there any training/recreationa
l software out ther involving the Fire Service?  I can visualize a command-simu
lator as either training software or just plain gaming.  Anyone know of any?  A
nyone want to develop any?  Any clues/hints greatly appreciated (be tehy PC or
Mac)
				Thanks

				John Steele
				JSTEELE@BINGVMB.CC.binghamton.edu

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 09 Feb 1994 09:30:48 -0500 (EST)
From: "Michael A. McGuire" <mcguire@utkvx.utk.edu>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V12 #21

In Article <9402082026.AA00305@CAMIS.Stanford.EDU>,
info-mac-request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Info-Mac Moderators) wrote:
>Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 12:03:35 -0600
>From: courcoul@itesmcq1.qro.itesm.mx (Juan M. Courcoul)
>Subject: (Q) PD/SW Screen dump utility for System 7.1
>
>I need to prepare a pair of application manuals on my Mac and would like to
>include snapshots of menus and windows. Is there some utility out there that
>can
>accomplish this ? I need it to:
>
>* Be able to dump menu and submenu images.
>* Be able to dump the menu bar.
>* Be able to dump any window or stacked windows.
>
>Color rendering is not needed; I'll be using only black & white. Naturally, it
>would be nice for the image to be in PICT format, so it could be scaled
>properly, if needed. PD or shareware is the only way to go, for I cannot
>justify
>purchasing this type of utility with my boss.
>
>TIA for any leads.
>
>Juan
>
>P.S. I tried Andrew Welch's Black Box, but it refuses to run on my PB 180.


I use SnapJot and like it a lot.

SnapJot
by Mark Edel
Wildflower Software
21W171 Coronet Rd.
Lombard, IL 60148
(708) 916-9360


Michael A. McGuire,
UTCC - User Services
mcguire@utkvx.utk.edu

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 19:41:21 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Internet email gateways

In Regards to your letter <199402082236.AA02774@nwnexus.wa.com>:
> How can I send mail to someone with addresses for America Online and/or
> Compuserve?  I'm not on either list, but I do have Internet and BITNET
> connections.  Thanks for the help.

To User Name on AOL - send to username@aol.com (if there are
any spaces in the name, delete them).

To 73333,333 on CompuServe - send to 73333.333@compuserve.com
(note the comma changing to a period)

cheers ... -Adam

--
Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- ace@tidbits.com -- info@tidbits.com
Author of The Internet Starter Kit for Macintosh -- tisk@tidbits.com

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 9 Feb 94 17:00:02 +0100
From: "Ad Herweijer"  <ad@ph.tn.tudelft.nl>
Subject: Kudos for TechTool 1.0.3 (one.o.THREE)!

Remember my warning in the Digest #16? I advised not to use software (i.e.
TechTool or Zap!) to  zap the PRAM, as this will trash the unique information
stored there about the date of manufacture and the hours of use of your Mac. It
turns out that I should have been more specific: I was referring to TechTool
Version 1.0.2 and Zap! Version 1.0, downloaded from the Info-Mac Archives.
Browsing around in the University of Texas Archives (rascal.ics.utexas.edu,
/misc/mac/util) I hit upon *Version 1.0.3* of TechTool and, lo and behold:
Problem solved! The newer version saves the manufacture date and the hours of
use on disk before zapping the PRAM and restores it on the subsequent startup.
She even is so kind as to display this information, making this utility more
useful yet. I think it's only fair to the makers of TechTool - MicroMat
Computer
Systems, Novato, CA - to notify the members of the Internet community after I
led them astray with my outdated information. IMHO, TechTool 1.0.2 should be
removed from the archives.

My objections against Zap! 1.0 remain, though!

ir. Ad Herweijer
Delft University of Technology
Fac. of Applied Physics
Pattern Recognition Group
Lorentzweg 1
2628 CJ   Delft
the Netherlands
Phone: +31 15 782408
FAX:   +31 15 626740
E-mail:ad@ph.tn.tudelft.nl

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 11:44:16 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: MacSLIP on a network

In Regards to your letter <199402080010.AA23746@nwnexus.wa.com>:
> If I am using MacSLIP to connect to a remote network, is there a way for
> other macs on my local network to use the network connection too?

I'm not a network guru, but as I understand it, no, there isn't. The
reason has to do with the fact that MacSLIP only establishes the connection
for a single Mac and only creates IP packets for outgoing information
>From that Mac. Everything that comes into that Mac over the network
is in AppleTalk packets, and thus goes unseen by MacSLIP. The missing
link is a router, which knows how to pass packets from one network
to another, presumably performing the necessary translations along
the way. This may not be completely accurate, but the upshot is the
same... SLIP can't connect an entire network without some additional
hardware (or software - I believe there are software routers that
might work).

cheers ... -Adam

--
Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- ace@tidbits.com -- info@tidbits.com
Author of The Internet Starter Kit for Macintosh -- tisk@tidbits.com

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 19:37:15 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: MacTCP networking stuff

In Regards to your letter <199402082236.AA02774@nwnexus.wa.com>:
> I have a small home office net of:
>
>         Mac IIcx          [LE ]
>         Mac Q610          [LES]
>         Mac Duo 210       [L  ]
>         Windows PC        [ E ]
>         SPARC workstation [ E ]
>         LaserWriter IINT  [L  ]
>
> In the table, L=LocalTalk, E=Ethernet, S=SLIP modem.

Nice setup. :-)

> My problem is twofold. First, I'd like the two desktop Macs to be able
> to AppleTalk over EtherTalk *without* excluding the Duo and LW from
> their net ('cause they want to print, or sync files). My guess is that
> this is what Apple's Internet Router is intended to do. Is that correct,
> and is there a better/cheaper solution. The reputed performance hit of
> the Router isn't an issue here.
>
> Second, I use MacTCP to communicate with the UNIX and PC boxes. But I also
> use it to get to the outside world via SLIP. Not only can MacTCP not do
> both at once, but it has to *restart* to switch. I'm trying MacTCP Switcher
> to make that slightly less painful, but I'd really like simultaneous
> access.
>
> Without going into detail about the reasons, I'm not in a position to use
> the UNIX box as the TCP/IP router, attaching the modem to it. And a Cisco
> box is beyond my budget. The latter seems silly anyway as a solution for
> something that should be simply solved in software.

It sounds to me like you really need a hardware router that can do
LocalTalk and Ethernet and somehow get out to the Internet. I don't
know if you can use SLIP out then, since when I've been investigating
this it was in terms of a 56K Frame Relay line. Besides, that wouldn't
solve the MacTCP switching problem.

Hopefully someone here, (Kee?) knows enough more about networking
than I do to help fill in the picture.

cheers ... -Adam

--
Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- ace@tidbits.com -- info@tidbits.com
Author of The Internet Starter Kit for Macintosh -- tisk@tidbits.com

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 08:08:31 -0600
From: brousseau%aaaca1@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com (Robert Brousseau - Technical
Translator)
Subject: MacX and the Meta key---a puzzle (R)

With either version of MacX, in the Miscellaneous Preferences, you can
select how you want your mouse buttons simulated. This allows your arrow
keys to always be set to meta (up arrow), middle mouse button (left arrow),
control (down arrow), and right mouse button (right arrow). To use the
arrow keys as arrow keys, you depress the option + arrow. This works fine
for me, although I admit, I don't use emacs so I'm not sure how that would
work.

A good idea is to photocopy the page of the manual that shows these
configurations. (It's on page 29 of the MacX 1.2 User's Guide.) I cut out
the arrow keys preferenc option graphic and folded it in half, so each
configuration is on a side. Then, according to my configuration, I taped it
to my keyboard. This way I am always reminded of which arrow key or option
+ arrow key to use.

Just my 2 pennies.

Rob

--
Rob Brousseau
brousseau@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com

------------------------------

Date: 9 Feb 1994 14:38:59 -0800
From: "John Rosborough" <John_Rosborough@sfu.ca>
Subject: Mirror Sites

Thank you to the moderators or whoever for the list or mirror sites of the
Info-Mac Archives. What a shame that there are so few mirrors in North
America. Just 4 that I could find. Wustl has no files just now,
ftp.ucs.ubc.ca is far out of date, amug.org allows a whole 3 concurrent
signons, and grind.icsa.uioa.edu allows a whole 20. Not a large number of
possiblilities for getting files in North America.

Perhaps this will spur someone to at least mirror the recent files directory.
  Please.

[Yes.  The more the better! -Gordon]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 09 Feb 94 08:25:11 PST
From: Arnie Keller <AKELLER@UVVM.UVic.CA>
Subject: MOD files for the Mac(?)

Is there an FAQ list for MOD files? If so, could someone point me in
the right direction?

If there isn't such a list, could someone be good enough to answer
these questions:

1) What's a good source for MOD files for the Mac?
2) How does one write MOD files?

I'll summarize the answers and post them. Much thanks in advance.

Arnie Keller
U of Victoria
akeller@uvvm.uvic.ca

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 01:49:30 +0100 (MST)
From: raimund@fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Raimund Lammersdorf)
Subject: Nisus mailing list [Q]

Hi there,

Is there a Nisus mailing list somewhere out there?

Thanks for the info and greetings to you all.

Raimund@fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 21:44:07 -0600
From: jclark@UTm.EDu (Jim Clark)
Subject: nuntius replacement

Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 15:48:47 -0600
From: (Pete Chane) <pchaneuw@vms2.macc.wisc.edu>

>Is it just me or does Nuntius 1.1.7 crash and hang your Mac too?
>It always happens when it is doing stuff in the background and I
> have more than 4 windows open.  And I give it 1500K!!!!
>Any help or recommendations for a replacement?  Can I keep my
> existing newsgroup file?

About a week ago I downloaded Newswatcher 2.0d17 (I believe from
umich.edu)  and after using it for 15 minutes I through Nuntius away.


The interface might not be quite as nice for reading threads but the
speed difference on my ext/cp loaded machine was dramatic. You can
mark messages read quickly, get a count of unread messages etc.
Try it!

I think you will have to rebuild you newsgroup lists, however...but am not sure

Jim Clark (jim.clark@utm.edu)
Math/CS
UT Martin
Martin, TN

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 9 Feb 94 15:16:52 EST
From: ndiscenz@bach.helios.nd.edu (nicole discenza)
Subject: Old English font (Q)

Hi,

I'm looking for a font that contains the Old English characters
(specifically thorn, yogh, and edh) in both upper- and lower-case,
in several point sizes (text and footnote sizes). Once upon a time
I saw something like this, but can't remember where.  It would
be most helpful if the characters matched Times roman.

Please respond via e-mail. If there is interest, I will post a summary.

Thank you,
Nicole Guenther Discenza
ndiscenz@bach.helios.nd.edu

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 23:25:56 +0000
From: cmszopin@students.wisc.edu (The Apothecary of Apostasy)
Subject: on-line dictionary

Does anyone know of an on-line dictionary somewhere in the internet?  If
so, I'd like to know how to get to it.

Thanks.
Corey Szopinski
cmszopin@students.wisc.edu

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 9 Feb 94 07:30:08 EST
From: esmith@mailbox.syr.edu (Gene Wolf)
Subject: PageMaker 5.0 and LaserMax

   For those of you out there who own LaserMax (LaserMaster) printers, the
older models with the MX controller cards, you will be interested in this
story. I upgraded to PageMaker 5,0 this weekend on my Mac. I'm running
system 7.1, not that it makes any difference. I am very impressed with the
new product but when I printed, using the Laserwriter 8.1.1 driver, my
graphics printed looking less than acceptable. Let's put it this way,
bitmapped art looked better.

   I tried everything I could think of including using the old laserwriter
driver to no avail. When I printed the same graphics from PageMaker 4.01
they came out just fine.

   I called LaserMaster corporation and they told me they were aware of the
problem and that there was a fix. All I had to do was replace my MX
controller card with a newer KX model. It would only cost me $1,395.

   I talked to a local representative who has dealt with the LaserMaster
Corporation in the past and he states that the problem is simply in the
software driver. Apparently the company isn't interested in supporting the
machine any longer so they will not upgrade the software. Instead the
company wants to sell the much more expensive hardware to get the printer
to be able to work with the LaserWriter 8.0 driver. To me this is absurd!

   Guess who will not be buying any more LaserMaster products in the future
and who will be telling this same story on his computer talk show this
coming weekend?

   For those of you who also have the LaserMax1000 MX machine, if you have
had a different result I'd love to hear from you!

   As Always,
     Gene

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:53:34 -0500
From: daveh@msd.measurex.com
Subject: Paging Sabastian Software........

Does anyone know if Sabastian Software (Bellevue,WA) is still in business ?
They had a great little screen grabber utility called Image Grabber back
in 1992. I'm trying to see if they ever came out with a System 7 friendly
version or sold the rights to some other organization. Thanks.

Dave Hirsh
Cincinnati,OH
daveh@msd.measurex.com

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 00:58:11 -0500
From: lt10@cornell.edu (Li-Hsiang Tu)
Subject: PortShare Pro 2.0 Demo timeout (Q)

I just downloaded the demo from the internet.  It seemed to work OK with
the terminal programs that are used for BBS, such as Zterm.  However, it
didn't work well with MacSLIP.  I connected fine with the program, but I
was constantly timed out, and there is no place in the CDEV to change the
value of the timeout.  Does anyone have similar experience?  Is there any
solution?  Or is there any other similar program that will share serial
devices on a localtalk (and/or ethernet) network?

Thanks.

P.S.  I am on a localtalk with a MacIIx and a Quadra 610 connected with a
SupraFax modem.  Both Mac's are running in System 7.1.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 21:39:31 -0800
From: kee@kagi.com (Kee Nethery +1 510 843 6140)
Subject: posting question concerning MAC (A)

>Seems everytime i use 'GOPHER, i can explore for about five minutes
>before it gives me the error message "unable to resolve host".  Of
>course, I CHECKED ALL CONFIG's.  I tried reinstalling MACTCP.. no
>go.  I then installed everything from scratch... same thing, nothing.

Your mac is trying to do a domain name query to find the IP address for
some host name. It is trying to ask your local domain name server for the
address of a host (for example kagi.com). If the owner of the host (for
example Kagi.Com) has configured everything correctly you would get back
the address of the host (for example 157.22.101.101). Gopher would then
attempt to contact the gopher host at the TCP/IP address. The problem you
are running into is that the host name can not be resolved into an address.
Since Gopher cannot convert the host name into a TCP/IP address, it is
telling you that it is "unable to resolve host".

There is nothing wrong with your computer. The person responsible for the
host you are trying to connect into has not properly registered their
machine name. If you know the IP address for the host in question, you can
attempt to connect to the host by substituting the IP address for the host
name. For example, my e-mail address is Kee@kagi.com. You could resolve the
host name yourself and send mail to me at Kee@157.22.101.101 and either way
it goes to the same place.

You are going down a gopher hole that has a host name that is not properly
registered. Consider it a closed hole and go down a different path.

Kee Nethery

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 14:57:46 -0600 (CST)
From: "F. J. Van Wetering" <fjvanwet@cwis.unomaha.edu>
Subject: Programming Editor for the Mac

We are downloading COBOL files to the Mac, editing them there, then
uploading them back to the mainframe.  Can anyone suggest a decent
programming editor for the Mac.  Our programmers are used to Brief for
DOS, SPF/PC for DOS, so any suggestions similiar to those would be a help.

Reply directly, I will summarize to the net.

fjvanwet@unomaha.edu

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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 17:19:08 -0500
From: clark4@nrlfs1.nrl.navy.mil (Daniel C. Clark)
Subject: Puny floppy Redux

Thanks to many of you who responded to my message about
a)toaster mode when booting from a floppy
and
b)new, larger interchange disks.

I see from some responses that maybe my original question could have been
alot more clear, and I apologize for not taking more time to compose it.

The problem came about when my internal powerbook drive crashed and I
wanted to restore the backup from my tape drive.  I needed to first
reformat the hard drive then run Retrospect to recover the backup.  The APS
formatter was not on my boot floppy, so I used the "eject" command to eject
the boot floppy and insert the formatter disk.  Just inserting the disk
took quite a few swaps back and forth between the two disks. Then starting
the formatter was not without pain, either. Running Retrospect caused the
same problems.

Several people suggested Ramdisk+ as a way of booting from a floppy,
copying the floppy system to RAM and then using the floppy as just an extra
drive.  I found I was also able to do much the same thing by taking a copy
of the Disk Tools floppy and adding the Memory control panel to it, booting
from it, creating a RAM drive, copying the system folder to it, and
rebooting.  I was then able to use the floppy drive like normal. Thanks to
all for your valuable suggestions!

The responses for the new floppy size were more divided, some supportive
and some not.  I didn't mean to plug the floptical drive; I've never even
had any experience with one.  It seemed to be the closest thing available
today, although I know there have been a couple threads recently about
their limitations.

Sigh.

I also got a rather strongly worded reply from Al Bloom here about
presumably not even having a backup.  Al, your post was insulting and
uncalled for.  The info-mac digest has been an indispensible part of my job
in finding out about what's going on out there.  If you feel the need bash
a perceived newbie again, please have the good sense to take it off line
first.



Dan Clark - clark4@nrlfs1.nrl.navy.mil
Naval Research Lab, Code 8211, Wash DC 202-767-6414

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 18:09:48 -0800
From: bjturner@lynx.cs.usfca.edu (Benjamin J. Turner)
Subject: Q610 monitor outlet switched or no?

	I have a Quadra 610 with a 16" monitor, and, as per my understanding,
I must switch the monitor on and off separately from the computer (don't even
get me started on the power button). This procedure is confirmed in the
manual. However, I recently was working on a friend's (slightly newer) Q610
with an Apple Color Plus monitor (or some such beast), and upon powering off
the computer, the monitor also powered off. Is this an aspect of the Energy
Star or power conservation features of the monitor, or his Q610 actually
switching the monitor power outlet that my manual (as far as I can remember)
says is not switched with the computer? Thanks for any info you've got, as
I'd really like to know what's going on here.
		Benjamin Turner
		bjturner@lynx.cs.usfca.edu

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 21:49:56 -0800
From: kee@kagi.com (Kee Nethery +1 510 843 6140)
Subject: Q: MacTCP+SLIP+Ethernet (A)

>My problem is twofold. First, I'd like the two desktop Macs to be able
>to AppleTalk over EtherTalk *without* excluding the Duo and LW from
>their net ('cause they want to print, or sync files). My guess is that
>this is what Apple's Internet Router is intended to do. Is that correct,
>and is there a better/cheaper solution. The reputed performance hit of
>the Router isn't an issue here.

Yep, that is what AIR is for. It's probably your cheapest solution.

>Second, I use MacTCP to communicate with the UNIX and PC boxes. But I also
>use it to get to the outside world via SLIP. Not only can MacTCP not do
>both at once, but it has to *restart* to switch. I'm trying MacTCP Switcher
>to make that slightly less painful, but I'd really like simultaneous
>access.

You need a SLIP to IP router somewhere if you want to stop switching
between ethernet and SLIP. That's the only way you'll get simultaneous
access. There is shareware SLIP to IP router software that will run on DOS
platforms so maybe the same software will run on your Windows machine? Have
never used the software and have no idea if it will run under Windows. I
know of no SLIP to IP router software for the Mac. If there is some I'd
sure like to know about it.

Kee Nethery

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 19:38:10 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: RAM Doubler

I continue to not have any troubles with it on my loaded 660AV...

cheers ... -Adam

In Regards to your letter <199402082236.AA02774@nwnexus.wa.com>:
> I was wondering if anyone out there has been using RAMDoubler for a while
> now (you listening, Adam?), and how stable it has been on the long term.
> Also, who has the best price on this thing currently?

--
Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- ace@tidbits.com -- info@tidbits.com
Author of The Internet Starter Kit for Macintosh -- tisk@tidbits.com

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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 20:48:23 -0500
From: mxh160@psu.edu (Matt X. Herbison)
Subject: RAM Doubler

Hello all.  I hate to make such an outright endorsement, but Connectix's
RAM Doubler is the greatest thing I've ever bought to improve my computer's
performance.  I had Mathematica, Photoshop, and StuffitLite running above
and beyond what I am normally able to run.  I had a problem getting it to
load so I called Connectix's support line (800 number) and the fellow there
returned my call after about 15 minutes.  He stayed on the line through 5
restarts (no "Try that and call us back").  It turns out that (on my 8/120
PowerBook 145 at least) it doesn't work with MacTCP 1.1.  I replaced that
with version 1.1.1 and all was fine.  The bottom line is that I love it and
it only cost me $50 (through their introductory offer I believe).  It
really does double your RAM.  I guess I should say that I am in no way
affiliated with Connectix, I am just a very satisfied customer.

-Matt X. Herbison                       -Penn State University
-mxh160@psu.edu                         -Apple Student Representative

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 19:37:38 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: RAM Doubler and First Class

Nope, works fine for me.

cheers ... -Adam

In Regards to your letter <199402082236.AA02774@nwnexus.wa.com>:
> I seen to get crashes and system hangs when I run First Class on a system
> with RAMdoubler installed.  Anyone else experience this?

--
Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- ace@tidbits.com -- info@tidbits.com
Author of The Internet Starter Kit for Macintosh -- tisk@tidbits.com

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Date: 9 Feb 1994 01:19:43 GMT
From: rjl@unlinfo.unl.edu (richard lee)
Subject: RAMdoubler and First Class Client 2.0.9?

>I seen to get crashes and system hangs when I run First Class on a system
>with RAMdoubler installed.  Anyone else experience this?

Nope,
I am using RD and FC2.0.9 at the same time without any problem.
[Centris660av, 8M physical RAM]

Richard Lee
rjl@unlinfo.unl.edu

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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 94 10:33:53 EST
From: jensen@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Larry Jensen)
Subject: Required Reading for Info-Macers

For those of you who have bought or used your first
Macintosh in the last five years, you might find
reading an article in the IEEE Spectrum of Dec. 1984
titled "Design case history: Apple's Macintosh" by
Fred Guterl, starting on page 34, very interesting.
It "explains" why some of the Mac features are what
they are.  For example, why the first Macs had NO
slots and how the sound generator can to have 4 voices.

I do not belong to IEEE but a friend gave me a copy
to read.  Perhaps someone on the net is in IEEE and
could request permission for IEEE to "reprint" the
article by scanning it in and placing it in the Info-Mac
archives for the benifit of the Info-Mac community.
I'm sure many Info-Macers will not have access to
the IEEE Spectrum of Dec. 1984 so the archives would
be the only way they could read the article.

Larry Jensen

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 19:39:47 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Screenshots

Flash-It is $15 shareware and will do this...

cheers ... -Adam

In Regards to your letter <199402082236.AA02774@nwnexus.wa.com>:
> How can I capture the contents of a non-modal (doesn't have a window title
> bar) dialog box? I need to make in into a PICT file for manipulation.  Is
> there anything better than cmd-shift-3?

--
Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- ace@tidbits.com -- info@tidbits.com
Author of The Internet Starter Kit for Macintosh -- tisk@tidbits.com

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Date: Wed, 09 Feb 1994 00:52:08 -0500 (EST)
From: TSEAGE%ALBION.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: SCSI

As a colleague at work says'
	"I'd like to find the man who invented SCSI
	 and bop him in the head"
I have and SE 30, a 44mgb removable, AppleCD 150,
a microtek ScanMaker IIG, and a personal laser writerSC.
On a good day I can run two scsi devises together never
3 and god forbid 4. I've read everything I can possible
read. Tried ever combination I can think of. Tried to
eliminate problem cables. The 44mgb drive is the terminated
devise.

	It is hugely frustrating to have all these wonderful
pieces of hardware but have to plug, shut down, restart, unplug
re plug et cetera ad nausium. Please someone help explain what
is going on. Supposedly the other 3 devices are not terminated.
And the scanner causes the most problems except when on it's own
but even the printer has stopped working with the external drive
(something I used to count on with 40 mgbs internal).

Todd (about to make his computer a door stop) Seage
T.D. Albion College
Albion MI

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 14:40:06 --100
From: stef@sc2000.az.vub.ac.be (stefan kuypers)
Subject: Searching a Smalltalk list

Is there anyone out there who knows about a list on which they discuss
Smalltalk?
to inquire about this information.

Please reply to me personally.

Stefan Kuypers (stef@sc2000.az.vub.ac.be)

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 15:33:48 -0500
From: ethan+@pitt.edu
Subject: SE HD doesn't mount... [A]

> I have a Mac SE whose hard drive no longer mounts.... just the "?"
> showing that it doesn't see a valid startup disk...  First Aid
> doesn't see the HD, nor does HD Setup.
>
> Silverlining spots something on the SCSI chain, but doesn't
> recognize the driver....  Does this mean the HD is trashed?

I had a problem like this which turned out to be a fried board on the
drive. It was assiciated with a power failure; I am sure that
connecting or disconnecting a SCSI cable could do the same thing.

The good news is that, in spite of being told by every tech,
Apple-certified and otherwise, that the drive was toast and should
be replaced, I found it to be (as far as I can tell) a blown fuse.

Here's what I did: I looked at the board for obviously fried
components and didn't see one.  I did however see a tiny nondescript
grey rectangular part marked F1. (It is an old Quantum 80, from a
IIfx). I thought, what's to lose? So I jumped it from one end to the
other with a little jumper cable and voila- perfect drive.

Here's the rub. I can't find a replacement fuse. And of course in
might not be a fuse, I know nothing about electronics- it might be a
sub-etha sens-o-matic transponder; but jumpering it worked.

Caveat: I didn't know what I was doing, and took my chances.  If you
choose to do the same and fry your drive, your computer, yourself, or
anything else, on your head be it. Be careful. There's electrons in
them-thar components.

Ethan Benatan
ethan+@pitt.edu

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 21:50:05 -0800
From: kee@kagi.com (Kee Nethery +1 510 843 6140)
Subject: Sending mail to aol or compuserve (A)

>How can I send mail to someone with addresses for America Online
>and/or Compuserve?

Compuserve address is xxxx,yyy
internet is xxxx.yyy@compuserve.com
(notice the comma became a period)

AOL address is Joe Blow
internet address is joeblow@aol.com
(notice any spaces in the AOL address are removed)

Kee Nethery

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 21:55:11 -0800
From: kee@kagi.com (Kee Nethery +1 510 843 6140)
Subject: serial or AppleTalk device on Ethernet (A)

>Is there any software that will allow my Mac to use a serial or
>AppleTalk device attached to another Mac on a ethernet?

PortShare Pro from Stalker Software
1-800-262-4722

Kee Nethery

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 21:08:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Veenker <veenkerb@seq.oit.osshe.edu>
Subject: SOS APPL kudos

I can't beleive all the bad things I'm hearing about SOS APPL. I've had
great luck with them! A little while after I got my PowerBook, I was a
little hard on the top trackball button and broke it. I called SOS APPL
and told them I broke it. They said: "OK, we're going to dispatch a
delivery box to you today. It will arrive around 3:00pm. Put your
computer in the box and give it back to the delivery man. Your computer
will be returned in five working days."

Whoa! I was impressed! As it turns out, I couldn't be without it that
long, so I told them I'd wait for my local dealer to get the part I
needed. But, that was some great service they were willing to give.

Now, on the other hand, I HAVE had lots of trouble with campus dealers.
In fact, NOTHING but trouble from campus dealers. It took over two months
for me to get my Stylewriter II last year. I walked into a local Apple
dealer (not the campus dealer, a REAL one) at about week six, and they told
me I could have had one within a week if I had just ordered it from them.
I learned my lesson, though. I ordered my Quadra 605 directly from the
local dealer while asking for the student price. I got it that
Friday..

Live and learn, I guess...

Brian Veenker

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Date: 9 Feb 94 22:18:23 GMT
From: scott@ssvs.gsfc.nasa.gov (Tom Scott)
Subject: Streamline

info-mac-request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Info-Mac Moderators) writes:

>>
>Subject: Streamline

>What is the current version number of Adobe Streamline?

>Mack
>Zu01988@uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu


Streamline 3.0

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 22:12:28 -0800
From: kee@kagi.com (Kee Nethery +1 510 843 6140)
Subject: Undocumented System functionality and you (C)

Your comments were very good. May I make a suggestion. How about putting
ALL retro patches into an enabler. In this manner, people can install a
clean no patch system and it if doesn't work, they can add this huge
monster enabler to their system folder to make it work.

Maybe install into the "clean" system an error trap that tells the user
that the software they are using "XYZ Software" uses unsupported system
code. Advise them to either install the "Monster System Patch Enabler" or
obtain a compatible version of "XYZ Software".

In this way, people would stop blaming Apple for all the code that is
wonky, the spot light would shine on the bad coders, we users would have a
way of determining which programs will survive system upgrades (and which
will cause problems), and lastly, coders will have a way to determine
whether their code is clean or not. Coders can remove the Monster Enabler
and see if the system barfs on them or not.

Just a suggestion,
Kee Nethery

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 9 Feb 94 14:24:59 +0100
From: "Blanco, Eduardo" <eblanco%maser.unizar.es@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Using serial in PowerBook

Using Think Pascal 4.0.2 for programming serial ports in PowerBook 100 and
PowerBook 145B, the system crashed calling FSWrite.  In Macintosh Plus, SE, LC,
Mac II etc. this run perfect.

Where is a source in pascal o {C} for management the serial ports on
powerbook?

Eduardo Blanco Aglio
Universidad de Zaragoza
Spain

eblanco@maser.unizar.es


Usando Think Pascal 4.0.2 para programar los puertos serie del PowerBook 100 y
145B, el sistema se queda bloqueado al llamar FSWrite, el mismo programa corre
perfectamente en Plus, SE, LC, Mac II etc.

Donde hay fuentes en pascal o {C} para manejar los puertos serie en PowerBook.

Eduardo Blanco Aglio
Universidad de Zaragoza
Espaa

eblanco@maser.unizar.es

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 19:28:12 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: UUCP News readers

In Regards to your letter <199402082236.AA02774@nwnexus.wa.com>:
> Hi netters, a friend in on the net using UUPC Mac to connect to
> a local Internet provider. He seems to be receiving compressed
> rnews files (can't remember what he subscribed on the net).
> Where can I find a rnews reader for the Mac? At least he can
> find out where those rnews files came from....

Let's see, there's TheNews, rnMac, and uAccess  as far as news readers
go, but I think your friend will also need ToadNews or uAccess to
unbatch them. Not trivial stuff to set up, but if you've done UUCP,
it's not too bad. uAccess is commercial, the rest are shareware and
are at ftp.tidbits.com in:

/pub/tidbits/tisk/uucp

cheers ... -Adam

--
Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- ace@tidbits.com -- info@tidbits.com
Author of The Internet Starter Kit for Macintosh -- tisk@tidbits.com

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Date: 09 Feb 94 09:34 GMT
From: CH0461@AppleLink.Apple.COM (Computer Studio,Bern,CH,IBR)
Subject: Wanted: Eduardo Mendez / XCMD

Is there someone who can help me?

I look for a HyperCard XCMD named RmveAbout programmed by Eduardo Mendez.
Who knows the actual home or internet adress of Eduardo Mendez or can send me
this XCMD? I couldn't found him under the old AppleLink adress.

Dominique C. Haussener
Kirchbergstr. 19
3421 Lyssach
Switzerland

Answers to: CH0461@AppleLink.Apple.COM


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Date: 8 Feb 94 18:43:00 EST
From: "Troen, Bruce" <BRUCE.TROEN@med.umich.edu>
Subject: Weather gifs (A)

In IM V12 #21, Larry Rymal notes that vmd.cso.uiuc.edu no longer posts hourly
infrared and visible satellite gif images.

Point your gopher client at "wx.atmos.uiuc.edu", port 70 and you will be back
into the UIUC weather server.

There is also info on UIUC weather mirrors and other independent weather gopher
sites.

Bruce Troen

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Date: Wed, 09 Feb 1994 11:44:40 +0100
From: edh@wn3.sci.kun.NL (E Hoenkamp)
Subject: Weather gif site... (A)

Another place to find regularly updated (twice a day?) weather maps (IR and
Visual) is cumulus.met.ed.ac.uk, look under /weather/gifs. Edward.

Ed[[u|w]ard] Hoenkamp +31 80 612605/612620, fax 615983

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Date: Wed, 09 Feb 94 12:21:55 PST
From: Jerry Tangren <GSW$EN@WSUVM1.CSC.WSU.EDU>
Subject: Weather gif site...(R)

Larry Rymal <lrymal@tenet.edu> asks
>        During the summer of last year, I frequently downloaded weather
>gif files from vmd.cso.uiuc.edu, converted them to .pics and used
>PICS-to-Movie to combine them into a QuickTime movie for weather formation
>animation.
>        Well, imagine my surprise to discover that vmd.cso.uiuc.edu no
>longer posts hourly infrared and visible satellite gif images.
>        Does anyone know of a similar site?  Apparently, there have been
>recent changes at other weather image sites because all of my FAQs on the
>subject are no longer valid (dead sites, images no longer there, etc.).

Demand killed FTP to vmd.cso.uiuc.edu. A lesson for us all. During the
hurricane season they were getting up to 90,000 requests a day.

However, they have created mirror sites at
(thanks to ABRODY@VAX.CLARKU.EDU for the info)

early-bird.think.com (131.239.2.1)  in pub/weather/maps
ftp.uwp.edu (131.210.1.4)  in pub/wx
kestrel.umd.edu (129.2.110.31)  in pub/wx (also see pub/wxsat)
wmaps.aoc.nrao.edu (146.88.1.103)  in pub/wx
wuarchive.wustl.edu (128.252.135.4)  in multimedia/images/wx
wx.research.att.com (192.20.225.3)  in wx

These files are in .gif format and must be downloaded in binary format.

Also, the images are not stored in the same format at all sites:
ie. color vs. grayscale.

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 17:08:39 PST
From: "Dave Leiner" <leiner@mtv.gtegsc.com>
Subject: Where is Lists.src? (Q)

I was just looking for the lists.src WAIS source, which contains many of the
available mailing lists on the Internet, and it is no longer at
wais.cic.net. It is also not in the directory-of-servers. Anyone know its
status?

--Dave

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 17:54:46 -0500
From: Glenn Fink <gfink@curly>

What is the internet address of ZiffNet? I keep reading how easy it is to
get ahold of them, but when I called them up believe it or not, the MacUser
Customer Service rep said "Internet? What is that?" !!!

AtDhVaAnNkCsE
Glenn Fink
gfink@relay.nswc.navy.mil

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